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#31526 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 10:20:17 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31525 alexmanutd, FERGIE £25M ASH DASH

Asta e una dintre surse,dar am mai vazut si pe alte saituri.

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#31527 by alexmanutd

(User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 10:26:35 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31526 RedDevil87, aga....speram sa fie totul drept dar nu speculatii....
da cu douglas...gata nu se mai aude nimika...

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#31528 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 10:43:31 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31527 alexmanutd, "... douglas ..." - Poate si e bun pustiul,dar nu prea mai vreau sud-americani.S-a demonstrat de atatea ori ca nu prea fac fata campionatului englez,si chiar daca se impun si isi creaza un nume in fotbal,isi doresc sa plece prin Italia sau Spania,acolo unde jocul este mai aproape de stilul lor.Singurii pe care chiar vreau sa-i vad in echipa sunt gemenii Da Silva.
De A.Young am citit ca se intereseaza si Barca,sper sa opteze pt United,in primul rand ca ramane la el acasa si in al 2-lea rand pt ca la Barca are o concurenta pe flancuri doi dintre cei mai buni jucatori din lume.

Singurul minus la semnarea lui Eto'o ar fi Cupa Africii,atunci jucatorii de top africani lipsesc cam o luna de la cluburile lor si lipsesc exact in cea mai incarcata perioada a campionatului englez,cam cand se hotaraste in proportie de 80% soarta campionatului.

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United are set to sign 18-year-old Brazilian midfielder Douglas Costa from Gremio for £20m. :hmmm:

Sunday Express

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#31529 by alexmanutd

(User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 11:16:03 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

Ценная информация от Sunday Express: английская газета утверждает, что «Манчестер Юнайтед» удалось-таки уломать «Гремио» продать Дугласа Кошту. Решающим аргументом клуба сэра Алекса Фергюсона, судя по всему, стали 20 миллионов долларов, которые были намедни предложены бразильскому клубу вместо прежних 15.

#31528 RedDevil87, :yes:

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#31530 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 11:18:30 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

Daca vine Douglas Costa,atunci transferul lui Young cade automat.

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#31531 by iggorr4

(Tiesto just a Legend) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 11:18:42 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

Chelsea Plotting €70m Plus Deco And Carvalho Swap For Inter's Ibrahimovic

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#31532 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 11:19:10 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31526 iggorr4, Si care-i faza?

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#31533 by iggorr4

(Tiesto just a Legend) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 11:20:44 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31532 RedDevil87, "...Si care-i faza?..." - ca nu mai vine la voi :pardon:

voi dadets 35 mln , da Chelsea dublu + 2 jucatori bunisori . :sarcastichand:

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#31534 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 11:22:51 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31533 iggorr4, "... ca nu mai vine la voi ..." - Nu cred ca se termina fotbalul fara Zlatan,e un jucator bun dar caracterul sau lasa de dorit.E poate cel mai bun atacant al momentului,dar e interesat mai mult de trofeele personale decat de cele ale echipei.Asa ca nimeni nu va suferi din aceasta cauza,ca nu vine la noi.

#31533 iggorr4, "... + 2 jucatori bunisori . :sarcastichand:

..." - Deco a fost bun,dar vremea lui a trecut,a facut o foarte mare greseala ca aplecat de la Barca,iar Carvalho e oparit,ceva de genul lui Heinze.

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#31535 by Antipod (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:03:11 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31528 RedDevil87, "... Singurul minus la semnarea lui Eto'o ar fi Cupa Africii,atunci jucatorii de top africani lipsesc cam o luna de la club ..." - good point

PS: chiar daca Costa e noul `dinho, totusi Young ar fi mai bun (el e englez, ii de`al nostru

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#31536 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:07:00 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31535 Antipod, "... Young ar fi mai bun ..." - Young e calit deja in campionatul englez,a demonstrat ca poate face fata jocurilor dure,cu Costa ar fi un risc.Chiar daca e considerat noul Ronaldinho,asta nu spune nimic,asa s-a zis si despre Anderson si iata ca nu a comfirmat.

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#31537 by ArmaDino (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:28:02 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31510 iggorr4, "... iar MU numai 0 ..." - noi avem destuli jucatori tineri care sunt in topul celor mai talentati ai Europei.. Rafael, Fabio, Possebon, J. Evans, Anderson, Nani...

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#31538 by iggorr4

(Tiesto just a Legend) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:29:21 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31537 ArmaDino, Nici nu te contrazic :pardon:

, eu am avut in vedere din video cela.

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#31539 by ArmaDino (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:29:53 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31533 iggorr4, "... ca nu mai vine la voi voi dadets 35 mln , da Chelsea dublu + 2 jucatori bunisori . ..." - da cine o zis ca SAF a avut intentia sa-l aduca, ori pe el ori pe Eto'o? Eu inca nici intr-un ziar n-am vazut ca el sau Gill sa zica "Da, Zlatan sau Eto'o e la noi pe radar"... tot asta speculatiile presei.... s-a dus CR si Tevez si lor le trebuie amu povesti legate de United

Pictures released of Michael Owen training at Carrington showed our new player having a laugh with his team-mates, clearly very happy to have made the move away from Newcastle.

Sir Alex Ferguson has today claimed that Owen is enjoying himself at United and there should be no concerns about his goalscoring.

“I’ve been really pleased with the way he has trained,” said Ferguson. “He has worked hard -but the main thing is he coming into work with a smile on his face. He is really enjoying himself.”

There have been concerns over Owen’s fitness problems as well as a drop in form since joining Newcastle, however the manager isn’t worried.

“There is no doubt he could really get his goalscoring form back on track with us,” he added. “But really he has never lost it. Although he had a few injury problems at Newcastle, he kept up the excellent goals-per-game ratio he has had throughout his career.”

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#31540 by chironda (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:37:28 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31536 RedDevil87, in schema ta pe young trebuie sal pui pe stinga el acolo joaca :wink:

nu prea lam vazut la villa sa vina pe dreapta

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#31541 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:39:36 (844 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31540 chironda, "... pe young trebuie sal pui pe stinga ..." - Ai dreptate,m-am incurcat un pic. :wink:

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#31542 by chironda (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:41:27 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31541 RedDevil87, e bine ca nani poate juca atit pe stinga cit si pe dreapta :wink:

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#31543 by ZEUS (Party Starter) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:42:24 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31524 RedDevil87, "... Asa as vedea eu echipa ideala(in cazul in care s-a realiza transferurile) ..." -

VDS
Wes - Rio - Vida - Evra
Nani/Valencia/Park - Hargo/Fletch - Anderson/Carrick/Young
Rooney
Eto'o - Berbatov/Owen

#31533 iggorr4, "... voi dadets 35 mln ..." - nu a fost nici o oferta oficiala

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#31544 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 12:46:29 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31538 ZEUS, La tine e un 4-3-3?

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#31545 by chironda (User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 13:02:10 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

eu optez pentru un clasic 442, dar dela mijloc in sus sa fie foarte flexibil

cum si este de fapt

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#31546 by RedDevil1878 (One Love,One United!) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 13:06:43 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31545 chironda, 4-4-2 e perfect pt United.Sezonul trecut s-a folosit foarte des un 4-3-3,dar mie mi se pare ca nu e chiar atat de eficient.
In acest sezon,odata cu plecarea mofturosului ronaldo cred ca va reintra totul in normal si toti vor juca pe pozitiile lor obisnuite,mai ales Wazza.

What purpose does United’s youth system serve?

Fraizer Campbell is the latest in line of the more prominent youngsters deemed not good enough to make the grade at United. He was sold at £3.5m (which could potentially rise to £6m). Financially, I think we sold him a bit on the cheap when Hull were prepared to offer up to £7m as a one time fee. But the fact is, here we had a player we got for free through our academy, and made a healthy sum on him.

But he clearly wasn’t the first of his kind.

More prominent among the players that left include the likes of Giuseppe Rossi, Gerard Pique, Kieran Richardson — each of whom left for fees in excess of £5m. Other lesser names such as Dave Jones, Lee Martin etc have left for smaller fees which still add up to a significant sum — or as our owners would like to say, profits.

Not accounting for members of our class of ‘94, the folks who have come through our youth system and over the age of 24 are:

1. Wes Brown
2. Darren Fletcher
3. John O’Shea

Of course, I am talking about players who’ve enrolled as trainees at our club, or come through the academy. But modern youth systems in England don’t necessarily function in a way to find enough talented local lads that grew up within a 90km radius of the club. Which is why clubs like United look elsewhere in their efforts to stock up on promising kids. Last season we added Davide Petrucci from Roma; prior to him we got Frederico Macheda from Lazio. Giuseppe Rossi was lifted from Parma’s academy. Rafael and Fabio da Silva caught the eye in a few games for Fluminense and were bought immediately. And Rodrigo Possebon was signed even before he made a first team appearance for Brazilian side Internacional. Each of these players were signed on for little more than a song, whilst the occasional flashes of young British talent like Welbeck, and Jonny Evans continue to rise up the ranks.

This season we signed a 15 year old kid, Scott McGinty, from Charlton and 16 year old Empoli product, Albert Massacci. We were briefly linked to Brazilian centre half Dodo, whilst striking a deal with a Brazilian youth football factory, aptly titled Traffic Football Management (specifically Desportivo Brasil football club).

With United’s current squad depth, it is obviously quite hard for players to come through to our first team unless they are exceptional. Those that do, like when Rafael broke through, they pay off the faith the scouts and coaches have in them, and are hence useful additions to our squad.

Loosely speaking, Ronaldo at 17 could be classed as a youth acquisition and at £12m, was really a steal. However, Wayne Rooney at £27m was quite pricey for a teenager, but financially speaking, his value is likely to be way higher than we bought him for, for quite some years to come. [Not that I'm saying we are going to sell him, mind.]

However, tie all these in with our policy on buying players under 26, and we can see a business plan right before us. Now, a rigid policy of not buying over 26 is not always ideal, but more often than not, it wouldn’t make financial sense either, but I digress.

It seems rather clear from all these recent acquisitions that United have stocked up on enough highly promising youngsters not necessarily in the hope that everyone breaks through; it would be nice if most of them indeed do break through, but that would be naive.

With the way the Glazers have run the club, with a now clear mandate on transfers, there is sure to be a clear cut policy on young players. We don’t see Ferguson trying to be sentimental with young players, hoping they would come good at some point of time. If a player seems to be static he will, more likely than not, be culled. Gerard Pique was a promising player whose departure disappointed a lot of United fans. But the manager saw selling him a good piece of business, and he rated Evans over the Spaniard. Barcelona would be happy with Pique, but they would obviously be disappointed to be buying back a player they ‘produced’ from their academy.

This may not appear anything out of the ordinary for many readers; after all, clubs do bring players through the ranks, and some of those players have to be eventually sold. But there seems to be a purpose with the way United seem to be stocking up talent. Arsenal have made this a major part of their business strategy, but United’s first team squad is a blend of experience and youth that’s geared towards winning trophies and not necessarily to ideals that Wenger’s sides profess.

So what purpose does our youth system serve?

If it’s not already obvious from the rambling above, here it is again: United clearly have a buy-small-sell-big strategy (if the player isn’t good enough). And that is the modern youth system for you in a country that restricts player movement under a certain age. So far the results have been a mixed bag in terms of players that make the first team transition. But it almost always seems to be making good business sense. Sending players out on loan to decent leagues, like Rodrigo Possebon’s loan spell to Braga for the upcoming season, are ways to increase the value of the club’s assets. Doubtless, if Possebon has a good season for Braga — which, by the way, will be playing in the Europa League this year — it will immensely help him make strides on his game as well as, from the United executive hierarchy viewpoint, increase his resale value.

Foreign talent are more likely to be coveted by clubs abroad, than English players coming through. Which increases the saleability of our Italian and Brazilian kids.

Win-win situation it could be, but we must also be sure not to be sucked into a Wengeresque stubbornness where we begin to reject obvious, mouthwatering talents just because they are beyond a certain age. It might be sad for a fan to see kids coming through our system only to be sold, but it is a part of reality in modern football and is bound to only increase in significance, especially for our club.

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Northern Ireland Milk Cup 2009

Monday, 27 July
Shamrock Rovers v Otago
Cruz Azul v Desportivo Brasil
Cherry Orchard v FC Porto
South Coast Bayern v Galatasaray
Co. Down v Trudovye Rezervy
Co. Armagh v Cantolao
Co. Fermanagh v Aspire
Sheffield Utd v Co. Tyrone
Manchester Utd v Co. Antrim
Burnley v Co. Londonderry

Tuesday, 28 July
Otago v FC Porto
Burnley v Trudovye Reservy
Sheffield Utd v Aspire
Manchester Utd v Cantolao
Co Down v Galatasaray
Co. Antrim v Cherry Orchard
Co. Tyrone v South Coast Bayern
Co. Armagh v Shamrock Rovers
Co. Londonderry v Desportivo Brasil
Co. Fermanagh v Cruz Azul

The Milk Cup is an international youth football tournament held annually in Northern Ireland.

David Beckham with the Milk Cup in 1991

Keith Gillespie receives final award

The victorious Manchester United players celebrate success over Hearts in the 1991 Premier final at Coleraine - with MILK!

Editat de către RedDevil1878 la 2009-07-12 13:45:10

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#31547 by jameli20 (My love is just "United") (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 14:04:58 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/12072009/58/transfers-view-united-sign-eto-o.html

opiniile despre aducerea lui Eto'o la Man U

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#31548 by BoW (Power User) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 14:06:23 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

Недавний кумир трибун «Олд Траффорд» Карлос Тевес рискует навлечь на себя гнев болельщиков «Юнайтед» после того, как публично назвал сэра Алекса лжецом и заявил, что мечтает забить гол в ворота своего бывшего клуба.

«Манчестер Юнайтед» готов предложить за форварда «Атлетико» Серхио Агуэро 20 миллионов евро и форварда Димитара Бербатова. Второй возможный вариант – 40 миллионов евро и полузащитник Нани. Об этом сообщает испанское издание AS.

Напомним, что «Атлетико» выразил готовность уступить игрока за 60 миллионов евро и вряд ли пойдет на снижение суммы.

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#31549 by jameli20 (My love is just "United") (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 14:06:30 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

David Beckham could be set for a return to the Premier League with Manchester City or Tottenham Hotspur if he fails to secure a loan move back to Milan, or so says the News of the World

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#31550 by ZEUS (Party Starter) (0 mesaje) at 2009-07-12 14:09:09 (843 săptămâni în urmă) - [Link]

#31544 RedDevil87, "... La tine e un 4-3-3? ..." - 4-3-1-2

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